The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf

Welcome to The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf. Your co-hosts are Matt Considine and Dr. Kevin Moore. Join them as they speak with golfers, journalists, architects and more fascinating people in the game as they share their stories.

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Let Me Be Mad — Ryan Gerard

09-21-2026

Ryan Gerard hates losing more than he likes winning — and he'll tell you that's a feature, not a bug. Or, as he said to his caddy, JP, recently: “Just, Let Me Be Mad.”

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Ryan Gerard (PGA Tour professional) to trace how a public course in Raleigh with no standing tee times built one of the tour's most interesting, unfiltered, and fierce competitors. Off a PGA Tour season with back-to-back runner-up finishes and a third at East Lake, Gerard is candid about what actually drives him, what he'd change about American golf, and how he keeps his head on straight when it isn't going his way.

The conversation dives into:

Why beating a friend seven straight times in a putting contest still wasn't enough — and how being the youngest, smallest kid at Wildwood Green built a competitor who "hates losing more than he likes winning"
The pitch for a lighted, low-cost par-3 "kids course" in every major North American city, sparked by a course he stumbled onto in Gullane, Scotland
Ted Scott's line about the best golf happening when expectations and reality line up — and how that explains the jump from irrational confidence to unconditional and real contention
Why his coach will always protect his self-described “graffiti on a rail car” swing instead of popular wholesale changes or overly smoothing things out
“Let me be mad”: the 20-second anger reset strategy we caught from Chasing Sunday, and why he thinks frustration is not a negative but one of his superpowers

Connect with our guest

⛳ Ryan Gerard — https://www.pgatour.com/player/59018/ryan-gerard — 🐦 X/Twitter: [https://x.com/golfgerard | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golfgerard/

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🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/

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Chapters

0:00:00 The cold open: hating losing more than loving winning

0:00:55 Welcome to the Bag Drop

0:01:10 Did the Professor win his match at St. Andrews?

0:02:26 How St. Andrews club hosting actually works

0:07:40 Matt's marathon relay confession (and getting kicked off a muni)

0:11:03 Booking Ryan Gerard: the anti-homogenized golfer

0:11:47 Professor's Teaching: North Berwick, the oldest surviving course

0:13:46 Ad Read: Titleist Vokey SM11 wedges

0:15:30 Ryan Gerard joins the show

0:15:52 The Atlanta airport run-in with the Professor

0:17:42 The Scottish Open walk-and-talk that started it all

0:18:58 The Gullane kids course and golf's barrier to entry

0:22:23 Bringing Park Grind's lighted par-3 model stateside

0:23:21 Growing up at Wildwood: free reign of a public course

0:28:35 No standing tee times, unlimited junior golf

0:32:00 The pitch: a lighted par-3 course in every metro city

0:34:43 Violin, chess, and badminton club president

0:39:30 Where the competitive gene actually comes from

0:40:27 "I hate losing more than I like winning"

0:44:23 Ted Scott's rule: expectations meeting reality

0:48:15 Small gains, not a swing overhaul

0:54:05 The Mona Lisa and the graffiti on a rail car

0:55:31 Stealing Matt Wolff's bunker shot

1:08:19 "Let me be mad": the mental reset from Chasing Sunday

1:14:22 The Presidents Cup snub and process vs. outcome goals

1:20:34 Is competitive golf actually fun?

1:24:28 Takeaways and the upcoming deep dive series

What is NewClub?

The premier private golf society in the United States. NewClub blends the community and access of a private club with the variety and affordability of public golf. Members enjoy thousands of reserved tee times, competitions, and events at exceptional partner courses across our local chapters, plus signature trips and exclusive perks.

What is The Bag Drop?

Deeply researched audio documentaries that tell the definitive stories behind golf's greatest clubs + weekly conversations with the characters and communities shaping golf today.

Going Long on the Great Clubs

09-14-2026

Fittingly, we recorded our shortest episode ever to explain why the next ones will be much longer!

Eight years in, The Bag Drop is biting off something new: fewer releases, deeper research, and three- to five-hour episodes on a single golf club’s history, strategy, and story. Matt and the Professor explain why the most fascinating untold stories in golf live at the club level, the question they brought home from Northern Ireland together at twenty and haven't shaken since, and the five rules they have set to do it faithfully. (PS. The weekly interviews and conversations are not going anywhere!)

The conversation dives into:

Why the untold stories in golf live at the club level, and why studying a golf club is really a way of studying people
A trip around Northern Ireland at twenty, the question "why is this the way it is here?", and the Professor on why one round as a guest never tells you how a club actually works
The Professor's numbers on the quiet comeback of long-form, and what hours of conversation can do that a two-minute clip can't
Admiration for Acquired, and a five-hour episode that finally made the model make sense, and permission to go that deep
Five rules for the new series!

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Connect with Matt & The Professor

🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golf

Chapters

00:00 Welcome: one of us is practicing, one of us refuses

01:29 Beating balls, and taking the doubt out with Golf Blueprint

02:45 The four-ball partnership is off

03:41 Matt's real golf strength: recruiting

05:00 Professor's facts: long form is quietly coming back

08:01 A return to conversation after a decade of the algorithm

09:05 Ad read: Titleist GTS, unboxed at night and gamed by morning

10:40 The Professor is a seven-wood guy now

11:21 Fixing the top of the bag with a four wood and seven wood combo

12:41 A short episode about going long

14:07 Eight years of The Bag Drop, starting at the Merit Club

16:33 Three years of the Professor, and curiosity on steroids

18:32 The decision: fewer shows, deeper research, three to five hours

20:23 Why clubs: study a club, study the history of people

22:56 Northern Ireland, and why one round as a guest explains nothing

25:01 Not the historians, and why that is the advantage

27:26 Acquired, Costco, and learning through a narrative

28:18 Smart Brevity, and what short form can't do

30:16 A decade of hearing "there's a past here you don't know"

32:40 The rules: no AI list of facts, no embellishment, the pursuit of truth

34:24 Time to get to work

What is NewClub?

Founded in 2017, NewClub is the premier private golf society in the United States. It blends the community and access of a private club with the variety and affordability of public golf. Members enjoy thousands of reserved tee times, competitions and events at exceptional partner courses across our local chapters, as well as signature trips and exclusive perks. NewClub is making the game more meaningful for those who love it.

What is The Bag Drop?

The Bag Drop features weekly stories from the culture, community, and characters shaping golf today. Produced by NewClub Golf Society, each episode blends authenticity and expert insights for passionate golfers at all levels. Special guests from clubs, courses and every corner of the changing landscape join us for thoughtful, in‑depth discussions on all things golf.

Why Three of Four Beginners Quit

09-08-2026

Nineteen million Americans have tried golf since 2020. About one in four of them stayed.

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Matthew Reagan, PGA (co-founder and general manager of Operation 36) to talk about why golf keeps losing the beginners it works so hard to attract — and what changed the day he stopped teaching the swing first and started people 25 yards from the hole.

The conversation dives into:

The year-four gut punch: a junior program running at 95% retention that still lost forty golfers, and the single thing the kids who stayed all had in common
A year of three-hour nine-hole rounds, a drive to Pinehurst, and the flip that turned into Operation 36 — start at 25 yards, shoot 36, back up
Why the environment around a beginner matters more than the technical ability of the coach, and what that says about how golf picks its heroes
The women who told him they had always wanted to play but had never been given permission to start that close to the green
Opening the app to everyone in 2027 — couch to course, course to coach — and what an app should refuse to pretend it can replace

Connect with our guests

⛳ Matthew Reagan, PGA — co-founder and general manager, Operation 36 — 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-reagan-op36/

📱 Operation 36 — https://operation36.golf — how it works: https://operation36.golf/how-it-works/

🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/op36golf — 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/operation_36/ — 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/operation-36-golf — 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/op36golf/

Join the NewClub community

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💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclub

Links & Partners

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🎧 Web: https://thebagdrop.fm/

Connect with Matt & The Professor

🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golf

Chapters

00:00 Cold open: the moment Operation 36 got its name

00:52 Welcome, and a fall morning in Athens

01:20 Ten kids under eight: not rested, but refreshed

03:35 Unplugging, the Slack away message, and the phone-off experiment

06:45 New York, Mumford and Sons, and whether you could live there

08:37 Today's guest: Matthew Reagan and Operation 36

10:10 What Op36 did to Athens Country Club

11:19 Scotland as the barometer: beginners go straight to the course

12:00 Professor's teaching: sampling versus early specialization

15:13 Ad read: Titleist AIM Enhanced and seeing the ball go in

17:18 Matthew joins The Bag Drop

18:16 Sixteen, upstate New York, and a course you could play for free

20:25 Campbell, Ryan Dailey, and deciding to coach

21:46 What actually turned him into a golfer, and it was not technique

25:28 Gamification, variability, and why golf hooks you

28:58 Three juniors at Keith Hills, and a program that grew to eighty

30:01 Ten levels, bag tags, and making a three-footer fun for an hour

32:19 Year four: forty golfers do not come back

33:59 North Carolina Long Term Athlete Development LLC

34:43 The one thing the kids who stayed had in common

36:09 A year of three-hour nine-hole rounds

38:08 The drive to Pinehurst, and the flip that became Operation 36

40:08 Teaching calculus to a seventh grader

42:01 Narrative, and the data nobody else in golf has

44:16 One in four: this is not a junior golf story anymore

45:42 Bootstrapping, licensing, and taking the junior out of the brand

49:15 Shrinking the variables until clarity becomes motivation

51:06 Competence, relatedness, autonomy

52:40 The women who never had permission to start close

55:33 The cultural headwind: America starts on the range

57:05 Aligning a club top to bottom, and Op36 at St Andrews

1:02:41 The ego of the young coach, and a $400-a-month membership

1:05:25 A gymnastics gym on every corner, and not a golf program

1:08:55 What a club needs before this works

1:12:23 If a recession comes, which programs survive

1:15:46 Opening the app in 2027: couch to course, course to coach

1:18:22 Golf Genius, and learning to run an engineering team

1:24:56 One thing you can do to make somebody's first nine better

1:31:07 Close: reviews, Titleist AIM Enhanced, and thanks

What is NewClub?

Founded in 2017, NewClub is the premier private golf society in the United States. It blends the community and access of a private club with the variety and affordability of public golf. Members enjoy thousands of reserved tee times, competitions and events at exceptional partner courses across our local chapters, as well as signature trips and exclusive perks. NewClub is revolutionizing golf membership, making the game more meaningful for those who love it.

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The Best Course in the World Is a Par 66

08-31-2026

Jim Hartsell will tell you the best golf course in the world is 4,800 yards and a par 66. He is not being cute about it. He would like you to come after him.

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Jim Hartsell — architect, three-time Bag Drop guest, and author of A Round of Scottish Courses — for a conversation about what thirty years of returning to the same small Scottish clubs teaches you about why golf places matter, and what a golfer owes a place once he starts telling everyone about it.

The conversation dives into:

Why Dunaverty — 4,800 yards, par 66 — is his answer to "best course in the world," and why he thinks the question is usually asked wrong
What choosing eighteen favorites instead of eighteen best freed him to write — and how a chapter actually gets built, including the sheepdog trials that unlocked a lost course on Arran
The night the Old Course put a flag on the 18th green made from a drawing his nine-year-old son had left on his laptop
The green-fee trap: why North Berwick and Brora keep going up, and why tour operators refuse to take a £30 course seriously
Whether writing about Dunaverty, Askernish and Isle of Harris is quietly changing them — and what the members themselves say about that
Three rules for being a good guest at a Scottish club, including the one about tipping too much

Connect with our guests

📚 Jim Hartsell — https://jhartsellgolf.com — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/JimHHartsell](https://x.com/JimHHartsell) | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jimhartsell/

📕 A Round of Scottish Courses (Back Nine Press) — https://back9press.com/products/a-round-of-scottish-courses

🎧 The Duffer's Literary Companion (Jim & Stephen Proctor) — https://tdlcpodcast.podbean.com

Join the NewClub community

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💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclub

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Chapters

00:00 Cold open: the anticipation is half the fun

00:41 Welcome, and the Professor's new office

02:16 A love letter to the game: who your club introduces you to

03:01 Caddie School for Soldiers and thirty days at the Home of Golf

04:31 Jim Hartsell, third appearance, third book

06:34 Professor's teaching: quiet eye and gaze duration

11:29 Ad read: Titleist T-Series and the three Ds

13:52 Three books, one thread

15:09 The course gets you in the room; a person carries the story

16:32 The high school English teacher who started all this

19:31 Calling Rob Collins with a crazy idea

23:29 Fifty interviews, an outline, and meeting Jim Sitar

26:40 The books that made him: Wind, Bamberger, Morton, MacVicar

31:18 When Revelation Comes, and the notebook that read like a book

35:25 Patric Dickinson's eighteen best, and Jim's eighteen favorite

38:53 Dunaverty is the best course in the world: 4,800 yards, par 66

42:07 Soup, clubhouses, and the whole lived experience

45:40 Sheepdog trials, and when history earns its place in a chapter

49:56 What do you have against the Scottish east coast?

51:44 Frankfurt, a lost day, and a morning inside the R&A

54:33 Dark hours on the Old with a persimmon driver

56:52 The flag on the eighteenth green

1:00:35 Why the most famous place in golf did not have to do that

1:02:21 Does writing about these places change them?

1:06:40 North Berwick, Brora, and being too cheap to be taken seriously

1:07:46 Would the veneer wear off if you moved there?

1:12:14 Three rules for being a good guest (and don't over-tip)

1:14:41 Calendars, course guides, and Jordan's junior program

1:19:27 Close: subscribe, review, and the Titleist T-Series

3D-Printed Putters and the Science of Feel

08-17-2026

What happens when a guy with a Wall Street background decides he’d rather make putters than climb the corporate ladder? For Al Vikmanis, the answer has been a winding path through Arccos, data analytics, custom putter design, metal 3D printing, ferrules, and whatever comes next. The common thread is a willingness to follow the rabbit hole wherever it leads, and a belief that the journey itself is the point.

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Al Vikmanis, Founder of 3DP Design to talk about the science and craft behind modern golf equipment, from why MOI matters in a putter to how sound actually becomes feel, why 3D printing opens up design possibilities traditional manufacturing can't, and why a ferrule can become a surprisingly personal piece of golf gear. Along the way, he gets candid about leaving Wall Street, embracing work that feels meaningful, learning from spectacular failures, and building a career around curiosity rather than a five-year plan.

The conversation dives into:

Al's early days at Arccos, helping turn enormous amounts of shot data into something golfers could actually use
MOI explained without the engineering degree, including why more forgiveness isn't automatically better for every golfer
How sound becomes feel in a putter, and why putting with headphones on might be costing you more than you realize
The unlikely path from smuggling putters into a Wall Street office to teaching himself CAD and eventually 3D printing golf clubs
Why custom ferrules have become a form of personal expression, more like putting stickers on a skateboard than simply changing the cosmetics of a golf club
The failures behind Al's work, including a collection of enormous 3D-printed mallets that looked like the Starship Enterprise and sounded like tuning forks

Connect with our guests

Al Vikmanis — 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-vikmanis-3755671/
🌍 Website: https://3dp-design.com/
📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/3dp_design/

👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083121141361#

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Join the NewClub community

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Connect with Matt & The Professor

Chapters

00:40 - Welcome to The Bag Drop
11:08 - Al Vikmanis joins the show
12:12 - From Arccos data to custom putter design
18:51 - What Al learned from working at an early-stage startup
21:03 - Leaving Wall Street and finding meaningful work
24:21 - MOI explained
30:33 - Why sound is feel
34:11 - How Al got into making putters
37:44 - Why custom 3D-printed equipment doesn't scale
41:20 - How metal 3D printing actually works
43:32 - Where 3D printing fits into the future of golf equipment
47:20 - The early failures of 3D-printed putters
51:08 - Learning from bad ideas
54:09 - How Al and Patrick Boyd started working together
56:52 - Why golfers love custom ferrules
59:24 - Ball markers, divot tools, and personal expression
1:02:21 - The creative side of Al Vikmanis
1:10:53 - What's in Al's golf bag
1:18:12 - What comes next for golf equipment
1:20:12 - “The journey is the point”

What is The Bag Drop?

The Bag Drop features weekly stories from the culture, community and characters shaping golf today. Produced by NewClub Golf Society, each episode blends authenticity and expert insights for passionate golfers at all levels. Special guests from clubs, courses and every corner of the changing landscape join us for thoughtful, in‑depth discussions on all things golf.

What is NewClub?

Founded in 2017, NewClub is the premier private golf society in the United States. It blends the community and access of a private club with the variety and affordability of public golf. Members enjoy thousands of reserved tee times, competitions and events at exceptional partner courses across our local chapters, as well as signature trips and exclusive perks. NewClub is revolutionizing golf membership, making the game more meaningful for those who love it.